Don't be surprised if other surf programs ban Ad$urfDaily from their rotation...

ok, this is a surf site with no guarantees. i am presently making about 10 cents/day on a $30 investment. at that rate, it would take me 300 days to break even. what am i missing here? since we aren't guaranteed anything, what is the incentive for anyone joining this? this is kind of a tough sell for a download builder. selling sand to the arabs might have a better shot. you really need to pick up the pace here or refund and start over with a new plan.:?

the previous poster, dustin, had a surf site that he realized wasn't working and refunded everyone. from what i hear there were no complaints and he even threw in a small profit, so it wasn't really a refund. certainly an honorable end. what say we do the same here? :?

Sounds like a good idea to me.ASD can be turned around into something far
better.A 2% daily like XLO would be great!

[user=1294]alaric[/user] wrote:

looks like a phishing email sent out. i got this from 'adsurf'.
i deleted the 'links'. i went to the forum and there is nothing new.

[user=1294]alaric[/user] wrote:


Dear Alaric,

The email that you are referring to is not a "phishing" email. In order for it to be a phishing email it must be requesting personal information which it is not. It is nothing more that a heads up email concerning an update in the forum about training leads, ASD autoresponder systems,
lead capture pages and marketing systems which has been posted.

Hope everyone is having a nice holiday,

Pat:cool:

This is just the begining of AdSurfDaily, we have positioned ourselves well and we are now positioning ourselves to grow the business.  This is about building residual income, any business takes time to grow, and believe me we are growing every day.

No offense towards anyone, but if you can not wrap yourself around our concept or you are use to the traditional surf sites, then maybe this is not the program for you...the choice is yours.  However don't be so negative towards a program because you can not understand what we are trying to accomplish.


ASD Forum Admin
Executive Board Member

[user=2259]MakeCashMoney[/user] wrote: make up your mind, in the video with jake they were saying they were going to be the top surf site.  the only way you can be the top is if people are making money.  you need to think of a new stragecy if this is going to make it.  like one profit share program has a 3% min ROI and 7% max.  if its a good day of upgrades it will build a reserve for the bad days.  or like was suggested ealier 2% a day.  but your right any surf will fail if you dont find a way to invest the money and make more than what your paying out.  i dont see how you  can expect us to advertise this to people and tell them that i am currently earning 25 cents a day or less on my $69.  most people would rather leave it in the bank then waste their time surfing everyday for that,  with no gauranty on top of it.

Adsurfdaily solid in the top premium rankings section.

Anybody knows the fax # to send the W9, I just want to get over with, otherwise they will not pay me :X

[user=3093]moboking[/user] wrote:


The AdSurfDaily fax # is 850-627-2533

Happy Surfing:cool:

Pat

[user=3510]fletcher[/user] wrote:
Actually in my opinion the members have gone relatively EASY on adsurf daily. If you think this is negative then you need to visits the Surfoogle thread. Jake listed them as Problem when there rate hit our current levels. 2 tenths of 1% is totally unacceptable as a daily rate. It's not that people don't understand what you are trying to accomplish. Your goal is admirable. But what I don't understand is the lack of focus on certain things that in my opinion are just absolute NO BRAINERS are far as things that should be done first. Like haveing ALERTPAY set up. This one thing cost adsurf daily hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential upgrades. This is the equivilent of a convenience store opening up with NO cash register. Just baffles me:?

[user=3165]ASEYE[/user] wrote:
I agree whole heartedly...  I've sent several emails to admin. stating that members thought they were dragging their feet with the payment processor situation and suggested they also consider Tri-Star Money Changers so they could take advantage of their 15,000+ membership base...  I received NO response to my emails...

It seems if they don't think of it, it's no good or negative... geeze, we're trying to help get this thing off the ground... because no matter how they spin it, IMO you're not going to be able to bring in and build a "sustainable" downline when they also realize the 1/2 of 1% or less ROI...  yeah yeah, you can always come back with "how much would you have made in the bank"... but guys, this isn't the bank industry...

Absolutely no negativity is meant here but we need to get this thing rolling somehow!!!

I think a contributing factor may be members are not surfing their ad buys.  This just means these ad packs will never expire and they drive the daily % down even more.  I know I'm guilty of it.  However, I just can't bring myself to complete a manual surf of my $100 ad pack for a return of $0.13.

They really need to do something to jump start the program.  I'm talking as a member here, not an admin of another program...

[user=1258]Dust[/user] wrote: agreed. i usually surf, but it seems a little pointless for less than .10/day.:?

Is it possible because of the holiday weeks of December that people are still out of town, or not at their computers or really "there" yet to settle back into surfing, upgrading, etc.

I am thinking to give it the first half of January to see if there is some improvement here....give it a chance to get back to normal and then either stick with it as is, or go to Plan B.

They really are a good company with a different sort of plan, and perhaps it is just a terrible time of year to really draw any conclusions.

I don't think it's such a low % because of the holidays, most other sites are doing just fine right now. I think it's a combo of only paying out 60% and having the lowest upgrade amount being $12. I have $600 in right now and am only making about 1-2 bucks a day. At that rate it would take me 2 years to recoupe.:?

[user=1210]Dre[/user] wrote:
I agree. I bet they are suckering people in with the lead of 150% surf--and are really top heavy into MLM, we suckers are footing the bill and getting a pittance of less than 1%--while the other goes out for their precious MLM--and to get into that you have to be a slave to meetings and conference calls and all that garbage that I never want in my life again!!!:X

[user=3370]GRAM[/user] wrote: amway, aint it great:?

[user=1294]alaric[/user] wrote:
Hilarious :dude:

Ever hear this one?

Oh I won't go to Macy's anymore more more,

There's a big fat policeman at the door door door, :?

He took me by the collar when I wouldn't pay a dollar:X so I WON'T go to

Macy's anymore more more

can i have a refund?

[user=1038]vinman[/user] wrote:
From Whom are you asking for a refund?

i would say he refers to my 'do-over' i mentioned a few pages back under dustins post. i used his prog as an example that no one complained about, after he saw it wasn't working

just a statement: i made TWO CENTS today.:? what is the new direction of this site you have talked about. i just don't get it.

[user=1294]alaric[/user] wrote: I got cha beat I made 50cents today! I'll be retiring in no time! See ya at the beach!:dude:

[user=3370]GRAM[/user] wrote: from adsurfdaily, who else?  thats why i am in the adsurfdaily thread

Sorry brother--I already tried and the answer was NO--as per TOS ALL TRANACTIONS ARE FINAL--What a bummer--they are slick willy's

i made 9 cents today. i'm rich!:?

[user=1294]alaric[/user] wrote:
That really is PATHETIC! isn't it.  But it also made me ROFL:D

I'm not into the mlm thing either, been there done that.
tons of conference calls...forget it.
they are giving $ to people who are recruiting,,,period! but no one is going to make $ if they don't change , not even the recruiters.
I've got $300.00 in this.
I'm not happy, wish they would get a different strategy like cep , manic, and coastin88. cause then people would join or get some incentive, I have to admit it's kind of depressing seeing the daily returns:(

gram, i'm not even getting those invites to adsurf's amway meetings anymore. i have a feeling they don't even believe it anymore:shock::?

hi

i was just over in the adsurf forum very quiet in there no one is posting any info at all,

but on the bright side i made 30 cents last night LOL retirement here i come!!!!!!!!!!!

 

brenda

Same here, maybe my upgrades expire by the end of the year, :?

[user=949]bvh[/user] wrote: just went looking for the forum. its gone. not even a clickable on the site. the link i had previously did not come up either. lets have a little communication here?:shock:

Maybe they are "on holiday" "on hold" or "reloading"....:D:D

GUYS (and GALS) YOU HAVE TO REMAIN POSITIVE OR ELSE....

There are two types of people in business.  There are the checker players who want to hop around the board (the industry) and then there are chess players.  Chess players plan their moves, and sometimes forgo moves in order to position themselves for future opportunities.

Everyone joined this program hoping for the BIG PAY DAY but I can tell you all (if you will permit me the permission of being brutely honest) that if you do not take a more positive tone with this program you will end up not only brining it down but you will lose your money and your potential founder profit sharing options.

Jake says it best...no one should be spending money on autosurf that they don't plan on spending on more traditional or typical online advertising avenues.   If you ran a pay per click campaign and it yielded nothing in sales but it cost you $300 at the end of the month you wouldn't be emailing Google - then why complain when your money that purchased AD Packs has expired.

I know some of these programs package themselves as BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES and that is crap...there truth is that "autosurfs" are tools to help you generate real time exposure to your business opportunity and/or service.   If the advertsinging Ad paks yield a return for the program then we get to share in that - but that is not a guarantee.

No matter what people tell you...autosurfs are always in flux.  Don't spend more than you are willing to live without and try and stay positive.  Plenty of programs have revised their plans to be more profitable for their members when the current business model isn't working any longer.

I'm not saying that is the case here - it isn't as far as I know.  However, I do know that if we sink this program it will never have the opportunity to evolve into a more stronger, profitable and efficient advertising enterprise.


http://www.mydailypercentages.com/index.php?refid=54

[align=left]Oh genie, you just manage to insert your link in your post, be careful you may get banned:D:D:D
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10-4!

Happy Surfing my friend...

[user=3295]mlmgenie[/user] wrote:
Are you kidding me.....Surf sites are all about the income opportunity. I advertise on Google quite frequently and 4 grand(the amount i have in AdSurf daily) would carry me for a year and give me far better results.Most the people don't even look at the ads. Atleast on Google if some one clicks on my ad it is only because they were specifically looking for what it is that I am trying to sell. If all I was after was the advertising I would put in 10 bucks not 4 thousand. Now don't get me wrong surf site advertiseing can be viable if you are a good enough marketer and can come up with an apealing offer. But to just put in a generic website that everyone has seen through the rotation 50 times before usually produces NO results. If you want advertising results for that kind of website then you are better of useing Google or print media.

NO....I'm Not Kidding Anyone....

Are you kidding me.....Surf sites are all about the income opportunity.  Well yes of course they are about opportunity but at this time many newbies are coming in and not being properly educated that what they are getting into does not guarantee a return and truthfully they can lose their "advertsing" dollars. 

I advertise on Google quite frequently and 4 grand(the amount i have in AdSurf daily) would carry me for a year and give me far better results.Most the people don't even look at the ads.   [b]Google has worked for me in my business and it is the reason why I come here to make my money work for me while getting some additional "exposure" and I do mean exposure.  I agree some of these autosurfs don't even require a person to watch the ADs and I think that should be modified to require some direct interaction by the viewer - that aside I have gotten very good pull through sales.  You are correct you have to have an offer that is compelling but at the same time there are people who are in opportuities like MLM who never expose anyone to their business (thus they fail) so this venue is a very affordable option for them to be active in their business (granted it is minimum) but from an uplline distributors perspective it is GREAT because they are contributing to the overall exposure of the business opportunity and like in life - it is a numbers game.    Google for the new person can easily drain their bank account to the tune of hundreds of dollars especially if they don't know what the hell they are doing - as you so noted.

Atleast on Google if some one clicks on my ad it is only because they were specifically looking for what it is that I am trying to sell. Well maybe in your particular business that you are advertising it works well, but I can tell you that in MLM your competitors and other envious distributors will click the hell out of your advertising and eat up your daily budget.    Also, you can have people run up the price per click to the point you are pushed to far off the primary page that you end up where hardly anyone will find you - again Google is full of gamers and players who can undermine your efforts and cost you money.   Google is okay but the world is full of tire kickers and they love to "clickie and lookie" at everything.

If all I was after was the advertising I would put in 10 bucks not 4 thousand. Now don't get me wrong surf site advertiseing can be viable if you are a good enough marketer and can come up with an apealing offer. But to just put in a generic website that everyone has seen through the rotation 50 times before usually produces NO results. [b]I will agree a bad piece of marketing is a bad piece of marketing. 

If you want advertising results for that kind of website then you are better of useing Google or print media.   [b]Well again it depends on what you are advertising and who your competitors are (i.e. b2b or competing distributors) so I would have to agree in some cases yes and then again other cases definitely not.  And print advertising is can easily be outside a newbies financial reach.

Thanks for posting - I enjoy the exchange - happy surfing!

MLMGenie.com

Ad $urf Daily News

2007-01-06
Payment Processing Fees - Effective Jan 15, 2007   
To help cover the cost associated with manually processing payments to and from AdSurfDaily, effective January 15th, 2007, we are implementing the following fee schedule: * * *AD PURCHASES via check, money order, or direct deposit to B of A: $5.00 * * *CASHOUTS to E-Gold **$500.00 or less: $5.00 **Over $500 but less than $2,000: $10.00 **Over $2,000: $15.00 * * *CASHOUTS to Virtual Money or Alert Pay **Less than $500: $5.00 **Above $500 but less than $5,000: $10.00 **Above $5,000: $15.00 * * *CASHOUT by check (any amount): $10.00 --AdSurfDaily Admin--  

Well well well, it looks like even the High Rollers and probably managment itself must be finally getting worried about the dreadfully low (close to non-existant) ROI.  In keeping with the norm in this industry, upper managment imposed the above "Reverse Robin Hood" change in the rules, that is "Rob the Poor To Pay The Rich".  As with income taxes, this will now never disappear.   

To say the very least, at this early stage in game this represents a RED FLAG IMHO.   

And recently in the forum we see references from the hiarachy of this organization of the slow showing of ASD caused at in part by the holiday season.  These same people are supposed to be seasoned and much acclaimed veterans of MLM, online and offline marketing.  Why oh why then did they launch leading into the holiday season and in particular with most of their guns half full or not even yet available (training, marketing tools and strategies ect. ect. ect.).  

IMHO, from now on, it's time to humble up and right the ship with their own resources.  After all, they 'are' at the helm!!    

:DYou need to send tickets to adsurfdailysupport @gmail.com.   You can call them with problems at 850-627-2206.I'am a founding member and have had no problem with support.I have surfed on other programs and have lost alot of money.ASD is a babe at this point.The money will increase as time goes on.I do not worry about getting up everyday and wonder if the site will be GONE!They are here to stay.

:D

Goodasset, if your statement was directed at me....

I have no reason to send to support...  I was simply stating FACTS that have recently happened...  I was not reporting feelings of Blind Faith...

Some may see the glass as half full, but Realism can substantiate that it's also half empty...

I want to succeed with this program as much as you do and I will also happily stand corrected  with  "facts" of rebutal... but blind faith just doesn't cut it when it comes to my money...

I hear ya...

from what I've seen, I get the distinct feeling that they are not 'savvy' to the way of the internet yet. In this particular industry anyway.

do you guys know what I mean? I'm not quite sure how to put it into words, it's just the' feel 'of the way they are running it.

I'm not slamming by any means, it's just that it's not quite right.  rapport between members and admin is missing.

The worst thing you can do in ANY program is to say ' OR ELSE' . It's like asking for a mutiny...so to speak. the statement alone says that members are not respected, and that will always create trouble.

I would really like to see this work since I have $ in this as well, but I'm not into having my hand slapped cause I'm told I'm misbehaving either. bottom line members have alot to offer, and I'm not sure if they are listening .

Just my 2 cents worth

Luba

 

this 'news' coming from a site that is paying vitually nothing is an insult to all of us. where is the money going? what are these great expenses? this last tos change makes absolutely no sense and is just plain abuse of its membership. can anyone explain the plan behind this site?

we are being 'nickel and dimed ' . with such a low roi , it is absolutely ridiculous.

charge a %, like everyone else, but $5.00 on a min wd of $18.00???

let's get real. truly I'm sorry I ever joined this program. I highly doubt I'll ever see my $.

It's going to take me 2 weeks just to hit $18.00, then take 5 off the top for fees. :?

give me a break.

 

[user=3295]mlmgenie[/user] wrote:
You are kindof missing the pt. 99.9% of the people joined AdSurf Daily for the opportunity of a big payoff NOT to purchase advertising for some other opportunity. Most people that surf do so because they DO not want to do a MLM business or a Direct sales business. They don't want to sell or recruit or babysit downlines. They want to click websites and get paid. That is the opportunity that was presented and that is what people thought they were buying into. So the LOW daily rate is the issue. But rather than address the issue and do something to raise the rate like restructure there model like so many other programs have done. They come at us with this YOU should change the way you think about surfing and use it as a way to advertise your other opportunities the rebate is a bonus not a guarantee, the way to earn money in this program is through building dowlines ect,ect.. This is not what people want nor was it what they thought they were buying. If it were about the advertising , people would not have put in hundreds and in some case thousands of dollars into Ad Surf Daily as it is just one of a BAZILLION other surf programs were a person could go to get EXPOSURE.

As for surfing being risking. Yes it can be but in my opinion it is easier to train someone how to properly invest in and investigate surf programs than it is to take a newbie and make them successful in a MLM or Direct sales biz. I have done both and most people just do not have what it takes to make it in MLM or Direct sales hence the 97% failure rate.

The point is that I am done with this subject.  Post something new and interesting to the forum.  We all have our opinions mine has been stated and so has yours...

Now upgrade in MDS and and make some money

[user=3295]mlmgenie[/user] wrote:
No reason to be Snotty.....And for the record I am not stating an opinion. Just emphasizing a point that many members before me have been trying to make.